The article on the front page of the Erie Times yesterday, "Now, More Signs of the Times," 11/21/07, provides a good opportunity for local peace groups to challenge the pro-war, pro-Bush Erie County Republican party through letters to the Edotor and press releases, to define just what "Victory" in Iraq would be.
We know what victory and defeat in W2 looked like: total formal surrender. We know what they looked like in Afghanistan for the Soviets and in Vietnam for the U.S. administrations that ordered those wars.